What do you think is gonna happen in 2012?


What do you think is gonna is it gonna be the end of the world as they say or planet X is gonna crash on earth or what tell me

The “2012 doomsday” is a hoax, a fraud, and a con job. It is a cruel and cynical lie being promoted by scammers after money: First they scare people to death that something terrible is going to happen, then they publish books and videos on “how to survive”. See the scam? You’re not going to fall for something like that, right?

These scammers want to sell their books, videos, ‘survival kits’, and spaces in non-existent “2012 shelters” in Antarctica (although Nancy Leider has the right idea, and is claiming Hawaii is a ‘safe zone’). They also want to divert attention from the fact that they have been wrong so many times before. It’s also being pushed by people who are promoting a Hollywood disaster movie due out later this year.

All of the claims of ‘predictions’ by the Maya, the Aztecs, the Incas, the Hopi, the Chinese (I Ching), Nostradamus, Sir Isaac Newton, Edgar Cayce, Mother Shipton are false: They did not make the claimed predictions. Predictions by others such as José Argüelles, Terrence McKenna, Nancy Leider, Mark Hazelwood and others are contrived pseudo-scientific nonsense.

There will be no sudden ‘pole shift’, either geographic or magnetic. There will be no ‘killer solar flares’. There is no ‘Photon Belt’. These are fiction. There will be no ‘galactic alignment’ or ‘planetary alignment’ of any kind, and we will not pass through the central plane of the galaxy, and even if these events were to occur, they would not cause any problems for us.

There is no “Planet X” or Nibiru. If someone claims that this object exists, then many regulars in this forum have been asking for the RA/Dec coordinates for it. One website is offering $5,000 for these coordinates.

As far as what is *really* going to happen:

February 29 – A leap day is added to the Gregorian calendar.
March 3 – Mars at Opposition.
March 20 – The Vernal Equinox.
April 15 – Saturn at Opposition.
April 21, 22 – Lyrids Meteor Shower.
May 5, 6 – Eta Aquarids Meteor Shower.
May 20 – Annular Solar Eclipse.
June 4 – Partial Lunar Eclipse.
June 6 – Transit of Venus Across the Sun.
June 20 – The Summer Solstice.
July 27 – Opening ceremony of 2012 Olympics in London
July 28, 29 – Southern Delta Aquarids Meteor Shower.
August 12 – Closing ceremony of the 2012 Olympics in London
August 12, 13 – Perseids Meteor Shower.
August 24 – Neptune at Opposition.
September 22 – The Autumnal Equinox .
September 29 – Uranus at Opposition.
October 21, 22 – Orionids Meteor Shower.
November 6 – U.S. Presidential election.
November 13 – Total Solar Eclipse.
November 17, 18 – Leonids Meteor Shower.
November 28 – Penumbral Lunar Eclipse.
December 3 – Jupiter at Opposition.
December 13, 14 – Geminids Meteor Shower.
December 21 – The Winter Solstice.
December 22 – I sit back and have a hearty laugh at all of the ‘prophets of the 2012 doomsday’.

21 December 2012: The Boilerplate Answer

We hear each day “two oh one two”
The kids all ask if it is true.
“Nibiru, the planet we must fear,
Or planet X shall soon be here.
The Mayan count runs to an end.
I was told this by a friend.”

Nibiru the hoax world of Sitchin
Fit only for the garbage bin.
Devoid of fact, reason or wit,
Science laughs at all the talk of it.

Of planet “X” Nan Lieder cries,
And yet she won’t look at the skies,
To come in four short years it’s true,
The damn thing must be now in view!

“Where is it?” Science asks with glee,
“You said, ‘Beware two thousand three!’
With Earth it didn’t make a tryst,
We’re very sure it don’t exist!”

Galactic lines are the next fright,
And yet the angles are not right.
“Six degrees off!” the scientists say,
“It happens near each solstice day.”
But it would no difference make,
You can be sure the thing’s a fake.

“Planets align!” or so some say
“It will be on that very day.”
Yet naught of fact now can they quote,
I’d like to take them by the throat
And try to squeeze some truth right in,
But murder now they say’s a sin.

Failed prophets, fools, those full of fraud,
Are people with whom we all are bored.

Copyright to me, and subject to “improvement” as
and when the inspiration strikes.

Ken E

No scientist has said this. No person who has any claim to common sense has this idea. The people pushing this are anti-scientists and anti Christian too. They get their jollies from frightening kids and gullible adults. They also make money out of selling worthless books, videos and pseudo-documentaries to the Hysteria er History Channel.

A lot of hoax proponents will look stupid. But they won’t care cause they’ll be stinkin rich.

The 2012 hoax-off has many claims, even quite a few that are self contradicting, and many others that contradict other parts of it.

It is difficult to calculate where it began. It seems several different armageddon’s sort of (slowly at first, then faster and faster as of recent months) “merged” into one.

First off, you have the Mayan Calender, (a cyclical calender) that turns over to a new Baktun on Dec. 21 (or 23 to some people’s interpretations) 2012. It’s the equivalent of a new year’s day for them. The calender rolls over, like your car odometer would… and you car doesn’t end when it ticks over to a new front digit, does it? The guy to blame for this nonsense is Jose Arguelles. Do a wiki search on him to determine if he has any understanding of archeaology or interpretation of Mayan artifacts, (credentials are lacking, imagination is not). Then decide if you wish to believe him or not.

The Planet X nonsense is the concoction of Nancy Lieder. She tried to sell books to “survive the end of the world” when this planet was suppossed to crashinto earth, or cause a pole shift, or whatever… back in 2003.

Since she didn’t sell enough books, she republished it, changed the date to match with Jose Arguelles’ end of the world, and, VOILA! A new money making machine with zero scientific evidence whatsoever!!! Hooray! A sucker is born every minute… And Ms. Leider wants that suckers wallet. Throw her lil sidekick Mark Hazelwood into the mix, and you have a recipe to confuse people into scaring them into emptying their wallets.

It’s a shame if you ask me.

What else?

Zechariah Sitchin’s Niburu?

Ooooh, don’t get me started. First of all, he misinterpreted an ancient Sumerian artifact. Fudged some dates on some mass extinction periods on earth, and came up with some 2085 date for the Annunaki to come back and get the gold from earthlings that we’ve alledgedly suppossed to have been mining for them for a few millenia.

Problem is, Sitchin’s fake planet was not intended to come in 2012, he claims it will return in 2085 (equally impossible), either way he is upset the 2012ers had no problem hijacking his planet and throwing it into the mix, not that a fake planet will come by no matter what hypothetical year you attribute to it.

Do you want me to continue?
I can certainly go into greater detail, if you would care te delve into it.

Since no one can predict the future (not the Mayans and not any of the people that keep on spreading all this hogwash about 2012), there is no answer.

Since Planet X doesn’t exist, that is an easy one – nothing will happen with Planet X.

Do the following exercise. Everytime you find what appears to be a claim about something scientific that’s supposed to happen in December, 2012, something scientists are supposedly predicting, see if you can actually locate a science-based website that makes that prediction.

Some of the predictions bear some passing resemblance to things that have actually been scientifically predicted; most do not.

One of those that somewhat resembles the truth is the claim that scientists are predicting a civilization-ending sunspot maximum exactly on Dec 21, 2012 (because that date is their favorite date). The truth:
(a) At one point at least some people thought the solar maximum would occur around 2012 and that it would be as intense as the activity in 1958. As you may be aware, the world didn’t end in 1958.

(b) Nobody would ever make a prediction as precise as “Dec 21, 2012” for a sunspot maximum. They’re hard-pressed to even get the month pinned down this far in advance.

(c) The general consensus now is that the maximum will be in May, 2013 and that it will be less intense than average.

Actually, there is no way to find out what is going to happen in the future. Only speculation and guesswork is possible.

The theories which say it’s gonna be the end of the world are merely backed by some absurd conclusions drawn from an even more absurd calendar made by the Mayans.( Get out of stone age, people! XD )

Some say that the world is going to end because loads of religious texts say that. Well, that just points out that religions were copied from each other. None provide any proof to back their claims though.

I don’t reckon any of these theories are true. So, the right answer answer would be: The only thing that’s gonna happen in 2012 for sure, is London Olympics! :p

the earth is not going to end..the of the earth is when you die, it could be when you are old and gray..I asked this same question back in the 60’s and that is what I was told. Don’t live to die..live to live!!

nothing…. another Year to add to the calender. People have been saying that the world is going to end since the beginning of time. Just grow up

watt for 2012

It’s not true. The world will not end in 2012, it’s all nonsense orchestrated by people wanting to sell books and get a kick out of scaring people.

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