I have been trying to find the answer to this and cannot. I know Catholics believe in mortal and venial sins. I am curious how you think applies to purgatory. If someone dies with mortal sin do they go to purgatory or is that a direct trip to Hell?
Purgatory is for those who die in a state of Venial Sin, not Mortal Sin.
I don’t know about all that, but I do know that a Catholic priest, who was my mom’s priest since the day she was born, told my mom that because she married my dad, who was divorced, she had committed a mortal sin and could not participate in communion, and that we, my sister, brother and I, would not be accepted either.
Despite that, my mom raised us as Catholics, and were baptised, and all those thing Catholics do.
As far as I know, on her deathbed my mom believed she was unworthy of the Lord’s supper and Heaven. While I know she did confess these things, I do not now what here actual believe in the Lord was, because of the mess of the Catholic man-made rules. I pray to see her in heaven when I get there.
Again, there is no need for purgatory. We are made perfect and Holy by Jesus. Someone, on one of these questions, said that if we have a selfish heart, and so forth, we need purgatory. HUH? Isn’t that sinful, meaning covered by Jesus?
Bottom line is that Jesus covered our sins.
If you still have to go to purgatory, why did Jesus die in the first place? Read the BIBLE instead of the catechism. There is no purgatory in the Bible.
Hebrews 10:11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:12. But this man, after he had offered ONE sacrifice for sins FOREVER, sat down on the right hand of God;…….
Christ died ONCE for sins and this sacrifice lasts FOREVER. He died for my sins even before I was born, so that would make His sacrifice applicable to future sins. If you think you need to go to a place called purgatory to be cleansed of sins, then you are saying the sacrifice, pain, torture, suffering, and humiliation endured by Christ was not good enough to forgive sins.
Oh, and by the way, catholics try to use the book of Maccabees to justify purgatory, which book was never in the Christian Bible, only the catholic bible. The Christians in Antioch, where Christians were first called Christians, (Acts 11: 26) rejected this book because it negated the sacrifice of Jesus.
If someone dies in the state of mortal sin then they have freely chosen to be completely separated from God and they will go to hell.
Sin is a deliberate thought, word, deed, or omission contrary to the eternal law of God.
A mortal sin is a grave infraction of the law of God that destroys the divine life in the soul of the sinner (sanctifying grace), constituting a turn away from God. For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must be present: grave matter, full knowledge of the evil of the act, and full consent of the will.
Most of the sins we commit are venial sins. Venial sin is a sin which does not destroy the divine life in the soul, as does mortal sin, though it diminishes and wounds it. Venial sin is the failure to observe necessary moderation, in lesser matters of the moral law, or in grave matters acting without full knowledge or complete consent.
However consistent unrepentant venial sins can slowly destroy your relationship with God and become mortal sin.
People die all the time with venial sins on their conscience and they will go to heaven.
For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, sections 1854 and following: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt3s…
With love in Christ.
To conclude that those men were in hell would be preempting hell. The Catholic Church does not judge who will go to hell, purgatory or heaven.
Because we do not know how long the period of purification takes for any individual soul. The Bible which was used by all Christians until the 16th century says:
“He also took up a collection, man by man, to the amount of two thousand drachmas of silver, and sent it to Jerusalem to provide for a sin offering. In doing this he acted very well and honorably, taking account of the resurrection. For if he were not expecting that those who had fallen would rise again, it would have been superfluous and foolish to pray for the dead. But if he was looking to the splendid reward that is laid up for those who fall asleep in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Therefore he made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin.” (2 Maccabees 12:43-45, RSV-CE)
God would not have inspired the Jews to pray for the dead; a prayer called the Kaddish, which is prayed daily in the Synagogue services; if such prayers were of no avail. The Kaddish has been prayed from before the time of Jesus until the present day.
Jesus, the perfect Jew, nowhere condemns this practice although He does take other practices to task; such as searching the Scriptures for answers instead of looking to Him (John 5:39). We pray for our loved ones, and all those whose souls are in purgatory, so that they may sooner enter heaven and behold the full glory of God.
In the Catechism of the Catholic Church is found this description of mortal sin, “For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met: ‘Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent.’” According to the Catechism, “Grave matter is specified by the Ten Commandments,…” The Catechism further states that mortal sin “results in the loss of charity and the privation of sanctifying grace, that is, of the state of grace. If it is not redeemed by repentance and God’s forgiveness, it causes exclusion from Christ’s kingdom and the eternal death of hell,\…”
In summary, mortal sin is an intentional violation of the Ten Commandments (in thought, word or deed) committed in full knowledge of the gravity of the matter and it results in the loss of salvation.
Catholics believe people have the freedom to make choices that will last forever. We can choose to participate in God’s life of love here on this earth, and we can choose to sin gravely. Should we die in this latter state, without repenting and accepting God’s forgiveness, we cause our own exclusion from God’s kingdom. That means the eternal death of hell.
Always Catholics refrain from judging an act as so grave as to merit eternal death, entrusting judgement to God.
Purgatory is for souls destined for heaven but requiring perfection in love, since we know only the perfect may associate with God who is all perfect. It’s not a place of punishment.